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title = "htmx lore"
date = 2024-12-17
updated = 2024-12-17
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author = ["Carson Gross"]
tag = ["posts"]
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For better or for worse, htmx has collected a lot of lore, mainly around [the twitter account](https://twitter.com/htmx_org).
Here are some explainations.
## It's So Over/We're So Back
A common set of phrases used by htmx enthusiasts when, for example, [@bunjavascript told me to delete my account](https://x.com/bunjavascript/status/1708557665268568412)
## htmx CEO
At one point there was a hostile takeover attempt of the htmx CEO position and, in a desperate poison pill, I declared
everyone CEO of htmx.
[Turk](https://x.com/gitpush_gitpaid) created if you want to register as a CEO.
If someone emails hr@bigsky.software asking if you are CEO of htmx, I will tell them yes.
You can put it on your LinkedIn, because it's true.
## Laser Eye Horse
At some point I photoshopped lasers onto a horse mask, as kind of an homage to [@horse_js](https://x.com/horse_js).
For some reason it stuck and now it's the [official unofficial](https://swag.htmx.org/products/i-lied-sticker) mascot of htmx.
## Spieltrieb
Spieltrieb means "play instinct", and is a big part of the [htmx vibe](https://x.com/search?q=spieltrieb%20from%3Ahtmx_org&src=typed_query).
## Pickles
At some point someone (I think [@techsavvytravvy](https://x.com/techsavvytravvy)), generated [a grug AI image](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1708697536587047142), and there
was a pickle smiling in a really bizarre way in it.
So we started riffing on pickles and now [there's a shirt](https://swag.htmx.org/products/htmx-pickle-shirt).
Cry more, [drizzle](https://x.com/DrizzleORM/status/1757149983713665238).
## Shut Up Warren
[@WarrenInTheBuff](https://x.com/WarrenInTheBuff) is the king of twitter and we regularly fight with him. This often
ends in someone saying ["shut up warren"](https://x.com/ThePrimeagen/status/1792564215749779515).
You can see the htmx website do this by going to
## Microsoft Purchase Rumor
In January of 2024 I make the htmx twitter account really serious for a week and started quote tweeting things
about microsoft. People started worrying. I announced a [license change](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1746736273728094323)
to get people freaked out about a rug pull.
[I then changed htmx to BSD0](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1746880860723544211)
[This is the offer](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1746895016256328079) I got from microsoft (real).
## (same thing)
I believe that [this tweet](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1672264927136952322) is the origin of the (same thing) meme
## Stronger Together
In December 2023, I was trying to get some indonesian twitter users to take a look at htmx, so I created a
["Montana & Indonesia, Stronger Together!"](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1734371865156563428) tweet w/an AI image.
This turned into a [whole series of tweets](https://x.com/search?q=%22stronger%20together%22%20from%3A%40htmx_org&src=typed_query&f=live).
## \* library
People often [call htmx a framework](@/essays/is-htmx-another-javascript-framework.md), but it's [a library](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1848751101035827210)
## "man"
A common [one word response](https://x.com/search?q=%22man%22%20from%3Ahtmx_org&src=typed_query&f=live) when i don't feel like
arguing with someone.
## The Le Marquee d'<something>
In December 2024, I [added a marquee tag](https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/commit/2b88d967c19619281228d1bf5398751615bdf462) to
the htmx website and started using the honorific (sic) in my twitter title.
## htmx sucks
I wrote an essay called [htmx sucks](@/essays/htmx-sucks.md) in which I criticize htmx (some valid, some tongue in
cheek, most both.) I also released [a mug](https://swag.htmx.org/products/htmx-sucks-mug) that I will often link to when people are criticizing htmx.
## Jason Knight
Jason Knight [hates htmx](https://x.com/JasonKn99664124/status/1731555036864381251) and wrote a
[great post](https://archive.is/rQrl7) about it.
Please don't harass him, [I draw energy](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1756476449693872635) from his posts.
## Drop Downs
In July 2023, sparked by the accusation that htmx users could not create dropdowns, I did a deep-dive into web
drop down technology and [uncovered a bombshell](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1684936514885869568)
## "htmx is a front end library of peace"
A phrase I will often [quote tweet](https://x.com/search?q=htmx%20is%20a%20front%20end%20library%20of%20peace%20from%3A%40htmx_org&src=typed_query&f=live)
violent htmx-related imagery with.
## The Process ™
[The Process™](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1697651918858764375) is the mechanism by which people initially hostile
to htmx come to be enlightened.
## "that's ridiculous"
In [June 2023](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1807183339222405317), [@srasash](https://twitter.com/srasash) accussed
htmx of being a government op, the first in many such increasingly ridiculous claims. I typically quote-tweet these
claims and point out that ["that's ridiculous"](https://x.com/search?q=%22that%27s%20ridiculous%22%20from%3A%40htmx_org&src=typed_query&f=live)
## Grug
I created .
## The htmx/intercooler.js feud
The htmx & [intercooler.js](https://x.com/intercoolerjs) twitter accounts often fight with one another. Sometimes its
just me [switching back and forth](https://x.com/intercoolerjs/status/1859652045399355559), but two other people have
access to the intercooler account, so sometimes I have no idea who I am fighting with.
## If Nothing Magically Works
Nothing [magically breaks](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1729870461864226829).
## "looking into this"
[idk](https://x.com/search?q=%22idk%22%20from%3Ahtmx_org&src=typed_query&f=live), I just think [it's funny](https://x.com/search?q=%22looking%20into%20this%22%20from%3Ahtmx_org&src=typed_query)
## "Look at this nerd ragin'"
A common phrase used to [mock people (including ourselves)](https://x.com/search?q=%22Look%20at%20this%20nerd%20ragin%27%22%20from%3Ahtmx_org&src=typed_query) with.
## Joker/Bane/Skeletor/Thanos, etc.
htmx is a [villian](https://x.com/htmx_org/status/1651698199478796292) in the front-end world, i'm good w/that